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and it was not supported by president obama. i mean, primarily it was led by joe manchin, conservative democrat from west virginia, and pat toomey, conservative republican from west virginia who felt the same way. why did i do that? because consistently -- why did they do that? because consistently with my getting elected in 1996, the people who agree with us on the gun issue have not been able to protect the people they elect. why is that? how could you have colorado voting 70-30 to close the gun show loophole in 2000? and have these people beat? well, one of its hinky -- 70% of people in colorado vote by postcard, by mail. and some judge said they couldn't do that in this case. >> isn't it also a lack of political courage? >> no -- >> political courage? >> no, it is not. it's about the voters having no intensity on this side. they get all upset whether people get killed and want -- when people get killed and want to do something. then they go into the voting booth, and they won't vote against you if you disagree with them. the
and it was not supported by president obama. i mean, primarily it was led by joe manchin, conservative democrat from west virginia, and pat toomey, conservative republican from west virginia who felt the same way. why did i do that? because consistently -- why did they do that? because consistently with my getting elected in 1996, the people who agree with us on the gun issue have not been able to protect the people they elect. why is that? how could you have colorado voting 70-30 to close the...
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and it was not supported by president obama. i mean, primarily it was led by joe manchin, conservative democrat from west virginia, and pat toomey, conservative republican from west virginia who felt the same way. why did they do that? because consistently with my getting elected in 1996, the people who agree with us on the gun issue have not been able to protect the people they elect. why is that? how could you have colorado voting 70-30 to close the gun show loophole in 2000 and have these people beat? well, one of its hinky -- 70% of people in colorado vote by postcard, by mail. and some judge said they couldn't do that in this case. >> isn't it also a lack of political courage? >> no -- >> political courage? >> no, it is not. it's about the voters having no intensity on this side. they get all upset when people get killed and want to do something. then they go into the voting booth, and they won't vote against you if you disagree with them. the people on the other side may be outnumbered 7-3. i'll tell you exactly what it wa
and it was not supported by president obama. i mean, primarily it was led by joe manchin, conservative democrat from west virginia, and pat toomey, conservative republican from west virginia who felt the same way. why did they do that? because consistently with my getting elected in 1996, the people who agree with us on the gun issue have not been able to protect the people they elect. why is that? how could you have colorado voting 70-30 to close the gun show loophole in 2000 and have these...
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also day one of the signup for obama care. why some people prefer obama care to, well, obama care. we'll explain that one. dr. drew pinsky is here to help. and later why a little losing might just be a winning strategy in life and for your kids. we'll explain that for us. with us ahead daily beast managing editor, fifth chair tonight former new york republican congressman. we begin with the government shutdown. chief congressional correspondent dana bash live on capitol hill. what's going on right now. what's the latest? >> reporter: nothing. that's the unfortunate and honest truth. everybody's gone. there are no negotiations, no votes. the house did vote earlier this evening which you and i talked about that they voted to keep three agencies open but it didn't pass. actually they're going to try to get back at it tomorrow. they're also going to try to pass funding for nih, because they saw that the president was complaining that kids with cancer can't get into clinical trials. and that really does seem to be the strategy in fact republicans admit that's the strategy right now. wai
also day one of the signup for obama care. why some people prefer obama care to, well, obama care. we'll explain that one. dr. drew pinsky is here to help. and later why a little losing might just be a winning strategy in life and for your kids. we'll explain that for us. with us ahead daily beast managing editor, fifth chair tonight former new york republican congressman. we begin with the government shutdown. chief congressional correspondent dana bash live on capitol hill. what's going on...
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the end game is they want to get at barack obama, right? by the way, it's not just republicans guilty of this. there are 17 shutdowns in america. each one of them is a disgrace. the argument of a great super power repeatedly shuts down the government over petty squabbling is shameful. >> there are shutdowns and most of them are, there are shutdowns over and over again in the regan administration three days, two days, one day. federal workers going without pay actually aren't due to receive a paycheck until october 11th so if we fix it before october 11th and agree to pay them for the days they were supposed to work, it will be all kind of okay. there is still disruption where people don't know whether they will get paid. the problem here is this shutdown is likely to go on for a couple more weeks and be really disruptive to the u.s. economy and other programs like wic that helps women get baby formula. that's run in individual states and they have a little bit of money to extend the program for a couple weeks, but as it goes on, more and mo
the end game is they want to get at barack obama, right? by the way, it's not just republicans guilty of this. there are 17 shutdowns in america. each one of them is a disgrace. the argument of a great super power repeatedly shuts down the government over petty squabbling is shameful. >> there are shutdowns and most of them are, there are shutdowns over and over again in the regan administration three days, two days, one day. federal workers going without pay actually aren't due to...
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obama care is law. he's been re-elected on the basis of obama care being the main pillar of his first tenure. what is the big problem here? why can't republicans just see sense, realize it's law and move on? >> sure, it's the same reason that we were elected as well. as a lot of folks talk the president was elected, we were elected to represent our constituents. our constituents are asking legitimate questions. you can pull up other speeches from the president where he said i'm willing to talk about changes and it's not perfect and there are some issues with it but then he never finishes out and says here's what those would be. we're recommending a couple of those. we've set in front of the president, here are two issues that are pretty simple. one is members of congress and the white house are exempted from the rules of obama care. we don't think that's right. if the law is so great for the american people, it should also go to the white house and the congress. the second thing is there are going to be
obama care is law. he's been re-elected on the basis of obama care being the main pillar of his first tenure. what is the big problem here? why can't republicans just see sense, realize it's law and move on? >> sure, it's the same reason that we were elected as well. as a lot of folks talk the president was elected, we were elected to represent our constituents. our constituents are asking legitimate questions. you can pull up other speeches from the president where he said i'm willing to...
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president barack obama at the white house. syria's foreign minister spoke at general assembly on monday and he talked about the conflict in his country. >> translator: syria has repeatedly announced that she embraces a political solution of its crisis. it is now for those who claim to support a political solution in syria to stop all practices and policies against syria and to help the geneva without preconditions. >> reports say more than 50 people have been killed, dozens injured in a wave of attacks around baghdad. most were car bombing in capital. >> kenyan lawmakers are set to begin negotiatiinvestigation ini shopping ball. 67 people were killed during the siege on september 21 st. militant group al shabab claimed responsibility for the attack. >>> authorities in chicago, illinois, are trying to solve a mystery. they're investigating why a commuter train that was parked and empty somehow moved onto a rail line and smashed into another train that was filled with passengers. dozens were injured. officials are trying to dete
president barack obama at the white house. syria's foreign minister spoke at general assembly on monday and he talked about the conflict in his country. >> translator: syria has repeatedly announced that she embraces a political solution of its crisis. it is now for those who claim to support a political solution in syria to stop all practices and policies against syria and to help the geneva without preconditions. >> reports say more than 50 people have been killed, dozens injured...
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which brings in obama care. apparently -- i come from a country where that is an odd way of looking at things. >> i think at the end of the day we have to see how the messaging works on this particular issue. i think we -- at this point -- have to start saying when the government shuts down even if it is only for a short period of time. what you have seen is the president is taking a backseat, not engaging. >> but it's not -- wait a minute -- wait a second. isn't that the problem with barack obama? doesn't he always take a backseat? >> wrong. >> shouldn't he get to john boehner office and pull up his sleeves and do business? >> wrong. when people are objecting to you -- not just your policies but your person, you -- >> hold on. i'm not moving on. >> what do you think nance ploe pelosi did? >> you talked. my turn. >> you have been shut down, ben ferguson. >> there is nothing like the power of the presidency to command attention. the moment they go off this cliff you are going to see barack obama and the democrats
which brings in obama care. apparently -- i come from a country where that is an odd way of looking at things. >> i think at the end of the day we have to see how the messaging works on this particular issue. i think we -- at this point -- have to start saying when the government shuts down even if it is only for a short period of time. what you have seen is the president is taking a backseat, not engaging. >> but it's not -- wait a minute -- wait a second. isn't that the problem...
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obama care online. signup starts tuesday. a conversation with two doctors who know a thing or two about politics. senator john verasso and howard dean. and -- >> just now i spoke on the phone with the president of iran. >> it's been more than 30 years between calls. our power house political panel weighs in on whether a short chat between the u.s. and iran can lead to a new dynamic in the middle east. this is "state of the union." unless a deal is reached by tomorrow night, the government will shut down. early this morning the house passed legislation that would delay obama care for a year and repeal the medical device tax. they will reject the bill and to undercore the resistance, the white house issued a veto threat. dana bash is with us now. dana? where does this leave us? >> it leaves us at absolute genuine stalemate. there are no negotiations, no bipartisan discussions going on of any kind or even plan to try to get them back from the brink. now senate democrats are so determined to make their point that they believe hou
obama care online. signup starts tuesday. a conversation with two doctors who know a thing or two about politics. senator john verasso and howard dean. and -- >> just now i spoke on the phone with the president of iran. >> it's been more than 30 years between calls. our power house political panel weighs in on whether a short chat between the u.s. and iran can lead to a new dynamic in the middle east. this is "state of the union." unless a deal is reached by tomorrow...
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we had an election in which president obama was re-elected over the central question of obama care. and the republicans won't let it go. enough already. let's move on. >> how about the medical device tax, which a lot of democrats don't like the tax on medical devices. they would like it repealed. how about -- and the idea that, no, we're not going to delay obama care but how about -- >> how about we don't shut the government down? as president obama has said -- so many of us have said, the implementation of anything, such as the affordable care act, will not be smooth. let's work together to iron out the kinks as they come out. let's not allow extremists in the republican party to hold our economy hostage and stall what is already a fragile recovery and prevent people from affordable health care. that's not negotiations, that's hostage taker. >> let's say speaker boehner says fine, i'll put a clean cr on the floor. he may lose more than half his caucus. are there enough republicans, quickly if, you can tell me -- enough democrats, i'm sorry, to fill in that gap? >> we'll pass a clea
we had an election in which president obama was re-elected over the central question of obama care. and the republicans won't let it go. enough already. let's move on. >> how about the medical device tax, which a lot of democrats don't like the tax on medical devices. they would like it repealed. how about -- and the idea that, no, we're not going to delay obama care but how about -- >> how about we don't shut the government down? as president obama has said -- so many of us have...
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the issue of obama care is over. it was resolved in the last presidential election when the president was re-elected and said that he was going to continue with it. >> there's so much potential for bipartisan efforts to advance this legislation in the senate. but senator reid needs to bring up the proposal and adopt an attitude that is broader than our way or the highway. there's time left for us to work together. the senate needs to hustle. >> the republicans want the administration to believe that they now want only a delay. well, why don't they state that forthrightly and say they are now for the affordable health care act but they want to delay it because of certain issues and bring them forward? >> i'll show you some interesting numbers right now. september 20th, the house passed its spending bill with no funding for obama care. that vote was 230-189. pretty much a straight party vote with two democrats, one republican switching sides. early sunday morning, the house voted again. it was almost identical, 2230, 1
the issue of obama care is over. it was resolved in the last presidential election when the president was re-elected and said that he was going to continue with it. >> there's so much potential for bipartisan efforts to advance this legislation in the senate. but senator reid needs to bring up the proposal and adopt an attitude that is broader than our way or the highway. there's time left for us to work together. the senate needs to hustle. >> the republicans want the...
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i would be happy to see president obama compromise on the budget, taxes, spending, even obama care, but he cannot compromise on the principle that the rules of democracy must be respected whatever the outcome. if democrats had threatened to shut down the government or default on the debt to force the repeal of the bush tax cuts, or to defund the iraq war, i would have hoped that president george bush would also have been uncompromising. america's power and influence abroad deriving large measure from the strength of american democracy. and if politicians here start playing fast and loose with the rules, dover whatever it takes to get the results they want, what does that say to people in russia? egypt? iran? venezuela? who get pious lectures on the rules of democracy from americans. it tells them there's something deeply rotten with the american system right now. let's get started. >>> a few weeks ago it was unimaginable that the president of the united states and iran would chat, but of course it happened a few weeks ago. very few would have argued there was a real chance that the unit
i would be happy to see president obama compromise on the budget, taxes, spending, even obama care, but he cannot compromise on the principle that the rules of democracy must be respected whatever the outcome. if democrats had threatened to shut down the government or default on the debt to force the repeal of the bush tax cuts, or to defund the iraq war, i would have hoped that president george bush would also have been uncompromising. america's power and influence abroad deriving large...
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boehner said, obama care is over. now he's out there with the tea party line on obama care. he's getting drug along. there's a difference. we don't have anybody to negotiate with. >> hold on, i know at 6:30 you have a lot going on, i want to make viewer stick around for that. good thought from you, newt gingrich and jones, 6:30, "crossfire". >>> jeanne moos gives us her take on the looming shutdown next. also at the top of the hour, a "the situation room" special report shutdown countdown. the republican senator ted cruz, he'll join us live. i want peacocks. peacocks? walking the grounds. in tuscany. [ man ] her parents didn't expect her dreams to be so ambitious. italy? oh, that's not good. [ man ] by exploring their options, they learned that instead of going to italy, they could use a home equity loan to renovate their yard and have a beautiful wedding right here while possibly increasing the value of their home. you and roger could get married in our backyard. it's robert, dad. [ female announcer ] come in to find the right credit options for your needs. because when peo
boehner said, obama care is over. now he's out there with the tea party line on obama care. he's getting drug along. there's a difference. we don't have anybody to negotiate with. >> hold on, i know at 6:30 you have a lot going on, i want to make viewer stick around for that. good thought from you, newt gingrich and jones, 6:30, "crossfire". >>> jeanne moos gives us her take on the looming shutdown next. also at the top of the hour, a "the situation room"...
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that's gutting obama care? really? i'd like to gut obama care. maybe the president doesn't want to accept them. he can negotiate. thank god for republicans that bill clinton is not in the white house and that barack obama is. >> go ahead, paul. >> bill did not like president clinton quite so much when he was president of the united states. >> i didn't like him but i respected him. it's not -- >> i know. >> in terms of news, let me say so paul can beat me up, the house republicans are going to pass in the next hour or two three bills that will fund nih, the national institutes of health, essential services of the d.c. government, i think the national parks and a veterans bill tomorrow. they have this on the regular calendar to pass with civil majority. 38 democrats in the house voted for those bills yesterday. i do not believe senator reid can hold senate democrats against those bills. his and the president's stance is they should vote against funding nih tomorrow. really? >> it's so cynical because as bill knows the republicans have cut the fundi
that's gutting obama care? really? i'd like to gut obama care. maybe the president doesn't want to accept them. he can negotiate. thank god for republicans that bill clinton is not in the white house and that barack obama is. >> go ahead, paul. >> bill did not like president clinton quite so much when he was president of the united states. >> i didn't like him but i respected him. it's not -- >> i know. >> in terms of news, let me say so paul can beat me up, the...
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worse off under obama care. another 41% say they will be more or less the same. let's hit the road with dr. sanjay gupta, our chief medical correspondent, who is in greenville, south carolina, today. a fifth of that state, sanjay, lacks health insurance. run me through the basics here. how does the obama care marketplace website work? we've already touched on the glitches. how does the website work? what kind of coverage can people get? >> well, once you get there, and as you point out, it could take longer than expected, what you'll see is you go to the website healthcare.gov. you pick your state. from there, you're going to have to apply and register within the site. what that is, is basically a three-page application, which i think is most notable for what it doesn't have versus what it does. the thing you're not going to be asked about on this three-page application is anything about your health history. go figure, right? this is health insurance we're talking about. you're not asked about your health histor
worse off under obama care. another 41% say they will be more or less the same. let's hit the road with dr. sanjay gupta, our chief medical correspondent, who is in greenville, south carolina, today. a fifth of that state, sanjay, lacks health insurance. run me through the basics here. how does the obama care marketplace website work? we've already touched on the glitches. how does the website work? what kind of coverage can people get? >> well, once you get there, and as you point out,...
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president obama should sign that into law. if the government shuts down it will be because the democrats insist on taxing people's pacemakers. >> van, i'm going to let you respond. ari, let's be honest, because it's serious enough because of what's coming up with the debt ceiling, we have to back up the rhetoric a bit. you're still tying a political fight that you lost fair and square to something that is going to be hurtful to american people, aren't you? >> i don't see how that's political to say that people's pacemakers should be taxed. it's the substantive flaws of the legislation itself. when you deal with the substantive flaws of legislation, fix it and for decades people have attached legislation like this to these type of funding bills. there's nothing new here to. president will not negotiate. >> van, answer, why do you hate people with pace maim emakers a hearing aids. >> i'm not saying that. >> i know you're not saying this. >> even keith ellis, a big progressive in congress is open to that because that tax hurts hi
president obama should sign that into law. if the government shuts down it will be because the democrats insist on taxing people's pacemakers. >> van, i'm going to let you respond. ari, let's be honest, because it's serious enough because of what's coming up with the debt ceiling, we have to back up the rhetoric a bit. you're still tying a political fight that you lost fair and square to something that is going to be hurtful to american people, aren't you? >> i don't see how that's...
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any change to obama care unless president obama makes the change, which he has done more than half a dozen times, is unacceptable. the american people want compromise. we're saying we want compromise. this morning at 9:30 when the senate opens, they have an opportunity to have a discussion with us openly about the things we need to do to get this government open again. i would vote for a short-term cr in order to have that conference passed. i know the speaker and the leadership would, too. but we're not dealing with that. we're dealing with my way or the highway. no changes to obama care, even if they're hurting the american worker or they're forcing people into a program that's not yet defined. so, i understand everyone wants to say that the reason that federal workers at the parks aren't there is because of republicans, but it's not. we've given every single time and opportunity for compromise. and we're not even getting counter offers. >> i got you. there's plenty of blame to go around. i can't wait for word that the vote has been done so people start getting paid again. represen
any change to obama care unless president obama makes the change, which he has done more than half a dozen times, is unacceptable. the american people want compromise. we're saying we want compromise. this morning at 9:30 when the senate opens, they have an opportunity to have a discussion with us openly about the things we need to do to get this government open again. i would vote for a short-term cr in order to have that conference passed. i know the speaker and the leadership would, too. but...